Hi mate...I hope you are well? A long time since we had lunch in Turin. Time Fly's. No one will ever know how many teams were produced. It was endless. I have been told that there was an attempt to archive every team produced by someone who worked for SSG. They kept one figure of each team produced. However they stopped after it was apparent it was a fruitless task.zoff wrote: ↑12 Mar 2018, 21:43What a beautiful piece of history. C.100 Colours....there is magic in that memo. Thank you Spudski!
spudski wrote: ↑12 Mar 2018, 19:32What's interesting about that Mark, is how many 'Specials' had to be ordered.
For example...Lloydie told me about his local supplier selling SO's of Rhyl FC...which according to that memo, a minimum of 100 had to be ordered, shared around different suppliers with which each Rep dealt with.
How many different "special teams" were ordered in those glory days? Did someone ever made an attempt to list them? I have been told that in Uk there are collectors who started to collect Subbuteo in the late sixties and never stopped since then and they own most of the Subbuteo ever produced. Is that true?
I think I have that right...Paul Lloyd will be able to correct me if wrong.
As for collections...there are many huge collections out there. But they will never own every team.
What has become apparent whilst collecting, is that everyone gets hooked up on 'set rules'. Whilst the Peter Upton website is a great source of information, some collectors read it, and set down dates etc in stone. That is not the case...SSG was a business and stock was used when needed. Regardless of what box, bases, figures etc were available at the time.
For example...when the splash box changed to the small splash box, there is no way SSG would have stopped using the longer splash box. They would have used stock up regardless, so there was always cross over periods, especially between 1976-1978 ish.
I get the impression in Italy, with Parodi it was more structured and organised, where as in the UK there were more anomalies and more haphazard.
This is why you sometimes find a 'catalogue' team from 1978 in a long splash box ( that transitional period of around 1977 ) where a catalogue wasn't produced...it didn't mean SSG stopped producing and expanding in that year. Hence the 1976 Italian New squad teams...they had already been thought of. Then you get teams turn up in LW box's with polystyrene inners from the early 80's...always it seems from Italy, but they occasionally turn up. Business using old stock.
So in turn, collectors have dismissed teams in the past, because they got hung up on 'laws'...often down to reading the Peter Upton site and setting words written on there in stone...which is far from true.
So we will never know what has been produced fully. Which is what makes this hobby so exciting...as it not possible to finish a collection.